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As I drain my biggest pond down it now has the top exposed 3 + feet high and dry and the exposed bottom has frozen solid for several days now. Anybody think I could be lucky enough to kill at least most of the snails that are on the bottom and embedded in the pond bottom?
From what I've read the snails (primarily Ramshorn Snails) hold in the top few feet of the pond edges. That is unless they gradually move deeper as the water recedes. I've seen them do this but I'm not so sure they are as motile in really cold water which I have now.
It would be nice to knock them back a little and along with my efforts to keep the herons out with staked lines see a decrease in yellow grubs.
Thoughts?
Hey Scott do you know if rotenone will have any effect on them if they concentrate in the puddles you'll treat for me?
BTW I could probably grow some killer size redears with the thousands of snails I have but I'm concerned they could hybridize with my bluegills and I only sell pure bluegills.
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If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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I don't know Cecil. I'll look into it.
If you only stock Male BG, then you could only stock Male RES and have some pretty large RES!
Now, do Female or Male RES grow bigger?
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Nuke it with a few hundred pounds of Hydrated Lime...it would become inert again, Ph wise, quickly, and add calcium...
I guess I just presumed you H-limed as standard BMP when draining...
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Rex,
I do in the smaller ponds but the snails still come back. I've read they have the ability to burrow in the mud and escape the lime. This pond is six times the size of the small ponds so it will be a little more involved to lime the entire thing.
No shortage of calcium in the water though. The water is almost hard enough to walk on!
If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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Just curious if you introduced the snails or they were added through mother nature?? Id love to add some sort of new critter to make my panfish, (YP, BC RES and BG) bigger. Sorry not on topic but just curious.
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Have fish..Will Travel Mark Blauvelt - Dayton Ohio ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .75 acre pond, HSB,YP,CC,BC,BCF,BG,HBG,RES
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Not a problem Mark.
I really don't know where they came from but my WAG is via birds or water that some fish were brought in with. However I'm not an expert on snails but Bill Cody has told me the predominant type I have (Ramshorn Snails) are not the most desirable as they have a very hard shell. Shellcrakers (redear) wouldn't have a problem with them but some other species might. I wouldn't be surprised though if yellow perch eat them and do know trout do.
Bill?
If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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