Both black and whites hang together in south as we are pretty cool. I usually catch big ones in winter up to 16 1/4 in. Best year caught 18 15 in. they was between 2-3 lbs. Haven't been able to fish last 2 winters due to surgery/chemno but am good to go now. The WR of 80% is good but are mostly 8 to 10 in. long so I will be glad when they settle down to their winter habits to see if there are still nice ones around. The last flood put some really yellow croppie that I had never seen before. I have a picture of one but can't post pictures. Flood also put fliers in this pond and we have caught 7 of these this year. Do you have them up there? Pm me your email and I will get one of my sons to send you some pictures.

Two ponds, 13 and 15 acres on the Mattaponi River.