I have a few questions that may also help thomasmgp. It sounds like he wants crappie the most( his top goal). Most on the forum don't reccommend that you put in crappie unless you have a lake(aprox25+ acres), but I think thomasmgp is going to put them in no matter what. Now enter into the mix LMB. Can the LMB be used in a way to control the crappie population? How about not having BG so the LMB have to eat the crappie? What relationship would/could these two species have? Would he have a better chance with his crappie without any BG?