The FA is at a level I can handle right now manually a couple times of month with a rake. I`m going to follow what Bill said, and leave the few big LMB I have. Probably add 50 larger perch. Can`t figure out why they don`t have a successful spawn when there are a ton of sunnies of all sizes? I`ll be gone for a few days. Thanks everyone. Any more ideas I would sure appreciate.