Mentioned the other day (new member forum) about trying to get a permit, and seems to be impossible (mitigation credits are 4x's the property value). Trying to build a fish pond that also holds the water to flood a waterfowl impoundment. ACoE pretty much stopped the fish pond part, so I moved off line to the stream and have the ACoE coming out to tell me if the drainage area is under their jurisidction, it only has water in it after a rain, basically a drainage ditch. Anyway, my plan is to run apipe way upstream, 1000' and pick up enough higher elevation to pipe water over into the new layout. Roughly looks like about a 5-6' fall. Do some of you pond guys think it will work? (not sure if my attachments come thru, let m eknow if you can't see them and I will try again. Thanks.
I was requesting to impound or flood about 1300' of stream (the ACoE considered wetlands) so I was offering to buffer through a conservation easement about 1000' of stream. The difference in their calculations in credit for the buffer vs the flooding was 670 favorable vs 7800 unfavorable. So I'm 7130 "credits" short. I got in touch with an area mitigation bank, and they said stream mitigation credits are selling for $100 each. ($713,000), I really had no idea a permit was this difficult. I also had to run an add in the local paper announcing my plan, and the ACoE sent a letter to everyone that owned property that touched mine for them to comment. The DNR also sent in a comment that I didn't have a management plan for the waterfowl impoundment. So I have been trying to deal with 4 agencies. ACoE, SCDNR, SCDHEC, and the NRCS. The NRCS guy really went above and beyond to try to help. So I met with the ACoE last week to try to find a new path, that's when I came up with the off stream plan, they are coming on Nov. 14 to make judgement on the drainage area to see if they have jurisdiction. Really makes you see how some people just build the pond, you would think the agencies would try to help people that are trying to do it the correct way. But I don't think that's the government way!
you should have met a speaker at the PB V conference from Oregon..he had a pond 37 years and a permit, which gubment rescinded...he did jail time fighting...bureaucrats only help when new and illusioned with their job it seems...after that fades, they could not care less about citizens, property rights or property owners.
So met with the ACoE project manager on the 21st at my new site proposal, she said looks like they may not have jurisdiction over this area. She need to go back and study some older GIS data but may be possible. She took alot of photos and said she would let me know, sounds better than it has. So I'm hopeful.
The permit saga continues: got a request from ACoE for some additional information on my prints last week (think it is looking OK). This week I got a request from DHEC for additional information (this one worries me). Coming up on 18 months since I started trying to get a permit. I think the goal is to just wear me down. But, I'm still plugging away and being hopeful.
So Finally last week received a letter from The ACoE and looks like I'm pretty good to go. The only thing I have to do is sign the paperwork, send $10, and wait for their PE to sign and return. Been a long process but looks like I made it. The property is ready for the first thinning (pine plantation) so once that is complete, sometime between now and November. Will probably start getting quotes in the fall. I'll try to start posting some pictures of progress as I go.
Yellow Jacket, why the anger towards the Peach or bulldog state. We almost moved there in the early seventies but I read a book by a poet and then moved to Va. If you share why you hate Georgia, I will tell a little about the book I read. Maybe the same reason you ended up the gamecock state.
Two ponds, 13 and 15 acres on the Mattaponi River.
