I think you have waited too long to start fishing. September would have been a better time to catch them due to the warmer water. NOt saying that you cant catch them now but you would have had better success in Sept. Their activity is starting to get pretty slow when the water drops below 60F and angling success becomes slow. Try a Stubby Steve artificial pellet, a raisin, or canned corn. Next year begin baiting them with pellets in late August early Sept then use pellet bait under a small bobber in the feeding area during mid to late Sept.
