Rainman thanks for the quick reply. please explain recoring. is that removing the dam and starting over? what do you think about 6 ft deep trench down the middle of the dam (maybe 2-3 ft wide) as alternatve. also, if i go with the one foot deep refacing, is that over the top of the existing rip/rapand then what is a good rip/rap to put down? so when you say drain you mean with a pump rather than cutting thru the dam? thanks again.

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