Thank you very much hang_loose for the tip!!! What a blessing it would be if the pond could actually pay for its own repair, or at least chip in. Wife law which has gotten stricter after our 20 years dictates that one toy must be sold before buying another. This chert could save me from selling my fishing boat which she claims won't be needed after the pond is fixed. I'm glad she's so dang practical, or at least sometimes I am.