Thanks Bill. I will not be aerating, and am just after large SMB. I can ask about a 15' hole. I only fish with artificial bait so bait stealing is not an issue. What should be the timing of the stocking of the various species be? Is it OK to add both the FHM and shiners initially and then follow with the SMB once the poulations of forage look good? I do not think that I can get bluntnose minnows although they are native in the streams around here. Would yellow perch help the SMB? I am planning to place chunks of concrete in a circle in 5' of water and fill with river stone as a spawning area. Do you think that this will work? I am thinking that the water level may drop during dry spells and that the rock will fill at least 6" making the surface of the rock at about 4 feet deep.