Its funny you say that eric because three years ago I would have said five pounds was a trophy now Im thinking over ten. I had a funny thing happen this weekend. I bought a shipment of shiners from andersons and had them add some black saltys to the order. I let them go in some thick grass along the shore line thinking the bass wouldn't come up into shallow water in cover to get them. boy was I wrong. At least the fishing was good in a foot of water for a while. I think that was the end of trying black saltys as a forage.