Thanks to all.

Jsec,

Here's the update. Called Butler Cty Dept of Conservation.

Fella I talked to told me: if damn height under 15feet and under 100 acres of watershed I should be fine. He told me to call DEP in Harrisburg and find out IF they would require me to get a Environmental Engineer to evaluated the impact on the environment.

He said all that assuming that is was not a wetland. now it pretty much as weedy muddy mess down there right now. Because i have a steady flow of water from my spring house through the middle of it.

My wonder is if i should even dig up more inquiries with the state if i don't need too? and i don't want to pay for an environmental assessment just to hear what i already know, and waster half my pond money on it.

the Butler county guy just told me the usual, and said i would only need to call the state and find out if they would even want it, permit wise he said i am fine.?

thoughts?