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inbreeding #42260 07/31/02 11:36 AM
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 417 Hico, TX B BrianH Lunker
BrianH Lunker B Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 417 Hico, TX	No, I'm not talking about you people in the other 49 states. The hole is about to go dry and I want to know if anyone knows about inbreeding. Can I stock another pond with these brothers and sisters? At hatcheries, do they sell you some siblings or do they try to mix them up a bit?

Re: inbreeding BrianH #276439 01/01/12 01:34 AM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 42 Redmond, Washington B Barnes1 Lunker
Barnes1 Lunker B Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 42 Redmond, Washington	My God. I hope you're talking about fish.

Re: inbreeding Barnes1 #276451 01/01/12 10:37 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,300 Likes: 450 Somerset, PA Sunil Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker
Sunil Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,300 Likes: 450 Somerset, PA	Barnes, you've really got some free time on your hands. Do some push-ups, sit-ups, or squat thrusts....make some productive usage of your time. Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:" "She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."

Re: inbreeding Sunil #276490 01/01/12 05:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 22,033 Likes: 483 Miss. E ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker
ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker E Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 22,033 Likes: 483 Miss.	Looking back for old posts to bring back to life ? Last edited by ewest; 01/02/12 08:47 AM.

Re: inbreeding ewest #276492 01/01/12 05:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 3 United States Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker
Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 3 United States	I always thought a little CPR on an old post was pretty funny. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: inbreeding Bruce Condello #276496 01/01/12 07:24 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker
Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana	I hate to be a pessimist but I don't believe most suppliers take inbreeding as a consideration when raising fish. I've seen some things on some fish I've bought that tell me that the gene pool is quite small. Some even go as far as culling and selling the stunted fish as just younger fish. Last edited by Cecil Baird1; 01/01/12 07:25 PM. If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.

Re: inbreeding Cecil Baird1 #276497 01/01/12 07:39 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 3 United States Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker
Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 3 United States	There's a lake in Central Kansas that has purebred striped bass in it. Virtually every fish in an entire year class (thousands of examples) has the same goofy mutation in it's spiny dorsal fin. This tells me that probably every fish comes from the same small group of parents, possibly related. I agree with you Cecil 100%. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: inbreeding Bruce Condello #276521 01/02/12 08:49 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 22,033 Likes: 483 Miss. E ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker
ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker E Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 22,033 Likes: 483 Miss.	It is best to mix things up once in a while.

Re: inbreeding ewest #276522 01/02/12 09:04 AM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker
Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana	Our chinook sport fishery in the Great Lakes came from a couple of females and a male from what I've been told. One thing that prevents the use of using fresh stocks to introduce genetic diversity, here in the Great lakes states, is the fear of introducing disease and the stifling government importation regulations that mandate expensive disease testing to cross state lines. Last edited by Cecil Baird1; 01/02/12 09:07 AM. If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.

Re: inbreeding Cecil Baird1 #276704 01/04/12 01:30 PM
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 417 Hico, TX B BrianH Lunker
BrianH Lunker B Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 417 Hico, TX	Hey Barnes, go dig up some other posts of mine that no one answered. I guess there weren't as many active people back then.

Re: inbreeding Sunil #314291 12/08/12 12:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 42 Redmond, Washington B Barnes1 Lunker
Barnes1 Lunker B Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 42 Redmond, Washington	Originally Posted By: Sunil Barnes, you've really got some free time on your hands. You're telling me...

Re: inbreeding BrianH #314292 12/08/12 12:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 42 Redmond, Washington B Barnes1 Lunker
Barnes1 Lunker B Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 42 Redmond, Washington	Originally Posted By: BrianH Hey Barnes, go dig up some other posts of mine that no one answered. I guess there weren't as many active people back then. Sounds like a good wintertime endeavor.

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