Ahhh at least I am not alone!!! Great thing about this forum we can pontificate on how smart we think we are but in short we see how ( how shall I say it ) less than smart we really are \:D \:D

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1/10 - 1/4 acre pond plus 16 ft deep/ Plus 40 ft by 20 ft by 6 ft deep koi and fathead minnow pond next to it. Upstate NY