Bill I had no idea and that is why I enjoy this web site so much.The fish weere only on the ground long enough to get a pic but, I do realize this dosen't matter. I guess I better tell my children when there down to the pond fishing and catch the fish not to drag them out and let them flop around on the ground until they figure out how to get the hook out of them \:D . I get most of the fish from a pond down the road from me about 400 yds and there are lots of them in there to get. I guess if the ones I put in don't make it I 'll keep going back for more. It took me only acouple of hours to catch those 70 I put in. What a wonderful web site once again always learning something new..