CJB Thanks again for the advise and taking time to put together such a detailed and descriptive plan for me. I will definitely put a hold on the woody and get more rocky going. Also if you think the bluegill is really going to be an issue I have a 3/4 acre pond behind my house that is almost finished. I can put the bluegill in that pond For the kids to have fun with while the other is evolving. I can throw in some lmb for pop control and call it good....Its main goal is water for the deer and turkey but it ended up being a little bigger and deeper than we thought. Should be around ten feet deep. I went to local coop and the suggested putting praire hay (500lbs) in the shallow end of my pond to clear the water of suspended clay...Have you heard of this????