Thanks Chris i did figure the threadfin would be goners when the water cooled but was still wondering if they would be a good supplement for adding in the spring to take pressure off of my other forage fish. The concern listed above was that I was not going to have enough forage fish to support all of the predator fish in the pond. I was trying to find other ways to increase the forage fish without adding more breeding predators to the equation. At first thought was just too add more GSH but after reading some of the PB articles I found out that even they are predatory when they get older and it sounds like the FHM have a hard time keeping their numbers up in a pond full of minnow eaters. So I am going to increase the amount of forage cover and would like to find ways to supplement the forage fish during the peak feeding months without increasing the permanent population. What do ya think