Yeah I agree ewest. I catch LMB here in water you cant see your lure past 8 inches. Fish are amazing how they can adapt to there surroundings. The big difference between LMB and WE IMO is how good they are. WE are gooooooood eating IMO one of the best fresh water fish to eat. Along with crappie!

The only difference between a rut and a Grave is the depth. So get up get out of that rut and get moving!! Time to work!!