Thanks Eric, it was a shot. As for color, I have noticed that when I catch a known GSF it is very easy to see it is light green. I then put them in a bucket of pond water with a areator until later. When I get around to sorting them out what I knew was green is now more blue! That being said color depends on a lot of variables and really can't be used as a determining factor in Iding when it comes to Sunfish.

Perhaps I'll have to print pics of fish with other differing characterists and take them with me to the pond as a cheat sheet until I can train my eye.

Sometimes ponds are like women, a small one takes less to manage and more time for pleasure