I will add my pond info later today. It may take a while. However in the meantime I don't think Norm would want the thread to flounder so I think Norm would be ok with us moving forward. By now we have gathered some good info on CC. I could not add much there nor can I on HSB which is where Norm wanted to go next.

So if any of you grand growers of HSB could help us out please tell us what you know about a put and take pond containing HSB as per Norm's request. Thanks for any data.