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Cecil - post a picture of some of your YP that you've grown in your small ponds.
Grant - keep in mind that a 5 lb CC can eat as many fish per year as a 5 lb LMB, sometimes more since the CC could be growing faster than the LMB. We had a local 1/3 ac YP pond with only YP and 6 CC. CC were keeping YP in balance due to predation. CC can be efficient predators espically on YP since they rest at dark on the bottom. The pond owner had a very hard time getting the big (30"+) CC out since they were eating too many 6"-8" YP. He had to resort to shooting the CC.
Generally speaking the fewer SMB you put in the pond the faster they will grow "to a point". 100 smb per acre is on the high side and if most survive, IMO they should be reduced to 50-60 per ac or fewer if you want them to grow to trophy size - 18"-19"+. Remember as those 50 bass get to 16" there will also be numerous smaller bass present due to recruitment.
If you want trophy YP in a pond with SMB (or other predators) then IMO you should use pellet trained YP. In a pond with SMB it will be difficult to grow numerous jumbo YP due to the competition factor for preyfish from the other predators such as SMB-CC-WE and maybe HSB. SMB & CC are more aggressive fish predators than YP. Without pellet feeding the YP are likely to not get enought natural foods to grow optimally to large sizes of 12"-14". Done correctly (pellet feeding) and in a pond as small as 1/3 ac, one can grow numerous YP (10"-14") that allows for an annual harvest of 25-40 YP (75-120/ac). However this scenario does not allow the presence of 60-125/ac larger predators (10"-16") each eating 125-200 small YP per year. Do the math; minimally that is around 7500 small fish and this does not include YP eating fish. That is a lot of YP to be loosing per year to predation and them being unavailable to move into the harvest size range of 8"-14" YP. A supplimental forage fish should probably be present to sustain the prey base. For a sizable harvest per year there has to be ample numbers in the smaller size classes of well fed rapidly growing fish to "fill the ranks" of harvested fish.
Last edited by Bill Cody; 06/08/10 06:30 PM.
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