Bill and all, I hope your not all disappointed in this thing. It's just a fish cage with some conical entrances. It does work well in my pond. Just had it out again tonight, one hour and caught about 20 fish. Matter of fact Bill, I had it set out in a spot where it was near shore with one end of the trap in about 2 feet of water and the other end floating. As long as the top never gets submerged from being cockeyed and the trap entrances are under the water it seems to work fine. After seeing some of the pictures of peoples ponds on the other post I can see that my pond at 1/2 acre is much smaller than most. That may help me catch fish since it provides more structure for them to follow and places to set the trap. Anyway, Bruce should have my email so hopefully he'll post them soon. Perhaps I'll also send the email to you Bill in case Bruce is busy for a few days.