If you fish for the rough fish a lot, have you tried giving them a rest for a couple of weeks and see if they "dumb" up?

I really think the way that you are going about it is about the best way possible other than getting an electrofishing boat in there.

Are 4"-6" golden shiners available locally? A different bait (live) might help.


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