TJ, Now that the camera has dried out all I need to wait for the newly improved, easier picture posting method you told me about on another thread. Once thats on place I will be posting pictures I have taken of them. Yes, its really cool to have yoy in the pond. I'm lovin it! The things I have learned here has opened up an new world of information that I wish I had access to when I was 25 yrs younger. I might have a different way of making a living than I do now.