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Any reason to choose one of these for stocking a pond over the other? Taste, size, ability to survive in shallow water, etc.?
The pond is about 1/4 acre, 9' deep, and typically goes dry during droughts (about every other year around here). So I'm not going to a lot of trouble or expense to stock it. This year its full and weather appears wetter than normal so should have water in the pond for a couple of years.
Have access to both of these fish. Aim was to provide some limited fishing and keep mosquito populations down.
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Why not put both in then?
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i know the greenie is a hardy little guy, i only find them in ponds also stocked with channel cat. im not sure if that was a fad years ago or what.i have seen them survive in just inches of water all summer then the little water that was left froze over winter and next spring they were still there.
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In a stocking with cc, it may have been hybrid bluegill and over time, some Fx offspring will look a lot like green sunfish.
scotjute, you can actually get these species for stocking, or just catch/net some from another BOW? If you have to buy any, why not stock hybrid bluegill? Agressive for fishing, will not overpopulate as pure breeds will, will control skeeters, will have more meat on them. Take handsfulls of feed chunked at them.
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scotjute, I have GSF in my pond and I can tell you they fight! JHAP is the ring leader for GSF, but I do have some that are pushing 9 inches and they are fun. I have read they taste pretty good but have never ate one at this point. They are hardy and WILL hold there own in a pond! A lot of guys on this site will frown on you wanting to stock GSF, as they have gotten a bad rep for being the ugly ducking of the sunfish family  but you can't beat it if you can get them for FREE! We caught about 10 this last weekend and my buddy swore he had a bass on one time and it was a 8 inch GSF! They have some fight in them for sure!
The only difference between a rut and a Grave is the depth. So get up get out of that rut and get moving!! Time to work!!
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scotjute:
JHAP will want to induct you into the GSF Club Hall of Fame if you do that, immediately!
Don't let him see this, I don't see anything wrong with your plans.
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I'm actually either a GSF fan or at least don't see a problem with them. They seldom grow as large as a BG but will out fight them.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
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I'm with Sunil... Stock 'em both.
With that said, sure would be an interesting fishery... You may want to toss 1 12" or so LMB in there with them to help keep their population under control so they don't completely breed themselves silly and stunt before the next drought kills them all.
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It's obvious Scotjute that you are extremely intelligent and have impeccable taste. I don't have any experience with Warmouth. As for Green Sunfish, they are a magnificent species. Very hardy - they will survive almost any conditions. Their beauty can only be rivaled by a Pumpkinseed or some species of trout. Pound for pound IMHO they fight better than BG or RES. If you were to introduce GSF to your pond and bless yourself with their presence you would be forever regarded as a friend to the GSF and the GSA would hold you in high esteem. In fact you would be eligible to join our ranks and stand against the under-informed masses. Stock the Green Sunfish, it's the right thing to do. 
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...but you can't beat it if you can get them for FREE! I should take this opportunity to point out that herpes is also free, equally hard to control as green sunfish, and elicits the same degree of disapprobation in some circles.
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Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:"
"She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."
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...but you can't beat it if you can get them for FREE! I should take this opportunity to point out that herpes is also free, equally hard to control as green sunfish, and elicits the same degree of disapprobation in some circles. That's funny! I don't care who you are...
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I should take this opportunity to point out that herpes is also free, equally hard to control as green sunfish, and elicits the same degree of disapprobation in some circles.  Hmm, well both are fun to catch but it's much harder to release herpes.
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JHAP you are stupid funny. I didn't know accountants could be funny. Mine sure isn't.
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i cant imagine drought ever being perscribed as a cure for herpes,and as the greenies go,i thought the pond i fished did dry up that summer and the ice that was on it over winter had so many dirt mounds from the cattle coming thru it i walked across the whole pond without worrying about losing traction. when the water came back up i stocked if with cc, thinking they were the only fish in the pond. i feed the cc and thought"i didnt stock that many cc did i", so i thru the casting net out and it was full of greenies. no pond upstream and nobody but me even knows the pond is even there
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GSF have high tolerances to low DO, warm water, turbidity, pollution and who knows what else... They have adapted to living in environments where other fish can't. That's why they tend to be out competed in a LMB/BG pond. They biologically evolved to live in sub par habitat that other fish can't survive in.
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...but you can't beat it if you can get them for FREE! I should take this opportunity to point out that herpes is also free, equally hard to control as green sunfish, and elicits the same degree of disapprobation in some circles. OH!! Snap! I never thought of it that way!! Too Funny!
The only difference between a rut and a Grave is the depth. So get up get out of that rut and get moving!! Time to work!!
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It's obvious Scotjute that you are extremely intelligent and have impeccable taste. I don't have any experience with Warmouth. As for Green Sunfish, they are a magnificent species. Very hardy - they will survive almost any conditions. Their beauty can only be rivaled by a Pumpkinseed or some species of trout. Pound for pound IMHO they fight better than BG or RES. If you were to introduce GSF to your pond and bless yourself with their presence you would be forever regarded as a friend to the GSF and the GSA would hold you in high esteem. In fact you would be eligible to join our ranks and stand against the under-informed masses. Stock the Green Sunfish, it's the right thing to do. JHAP don't like me. So to get on his good side, I say Stock GSF and count your Blessings.  � �
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"GSF have high tolerances to low DO, warm water, turbidity, pollution and who knows what else"
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true on the comment about not being able to compete with bg,lmb. another cc pond with greenies i used to fish had so many gsf u could just dangle a small lure out from the end of ur rod, no cast needed. we stocked 20 small bass and 2 years later we stopped catching gsf and havent caught one since
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Some pretty funny stuff there!
Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:"
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For safety's sake, anytime you stock those "other" fish you should wear a condom. Your mom would be proud...
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GSF have high tolerances to low DO, warm water, turbidity, pollution and who knows what else... Fortunately they have a high tolerance for under-informed masses. Why can't you people realize that the GSF is the chosen fish. They can probably live in a pond filled with tapioca pudding. Let's see a LMB or BG do that. They are very temperature tolerant, low oxygen tolerant, heck they'll live almost any where.
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"GSF have high tolerances to low DO, warm water, turbidity, pollution and who knows what else"
herpes ...which they were probably exposed to by those harlot bluegill.
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"GSF have high tolerances to low DO, warm water, turbidity, pollution and who knows what else"
herpes ...which they were probably exposed to by those harlot bluegill. I believe everything you said JHAP and are 100% correct. That is why I am on your side to advocate the stocking of GSF. �
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