Greg, thanks for your input. I want to have a good batch of BG for the kids and for fish fryin, etc... For myself I would really like to have just a few really nice bass. Catch and release until otherwise needed would be the general idea for the bass. As long as I can get these two things id be happy. My objectives as they are, which is the right path to take? Gregs or Ewest? I dont know which? I spoke with the local fishery and they say my 4-500 crawfish should be ready for delivery by next month, so keep that in mind for forage as well. Both of your opinions are certainly greatly appreciated, I just dont know which plan is the best way two get where i want to be. I do want to do this right just that now it seams that I have two "right" ways to do it... Greg, you mention shiners, from what I had been reading it seemed as if everyone agreed that any type of shiner should not be put in a pond as small as mine due to overcrowding. That was the reason why i was trying to find a supplier for lake chubsuckers as a replacement for the shiners (which i have yet to find). Is this one of those times "when it just depends"? I like the chubsucker idea better myself, they clean the bottom of the pond and serve as bait.