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ground water and precipitation
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since i cant edit posts, i have to correct for prior fat finger typos......sp: fossiliferous
is the limestone fossiliferous?
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Is it a limestone quarry or gravel - what was mined?
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there was a pic bruce posted on page 2 of the home run thread that looks like highly fractured although relatively undeformed limestone: http://www.pondboss.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=202808&fpart=2i never congratulated you BTW bruce.....as such congrats i'm just a bit jealous in el dorado
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So DIED you were mining the other thread for data to give you an advantage here? Just like a Geologist. Good thought- I should have thought of that. -
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i'm not sure there is enough elevation in the region for this thought, its hard to tell on sat.image (w/out contour lines) but it appears there could be some form of terraced drain system between the active pit east of the hwy, to bruces filled pit west of the hwy both connected to the e-w running creek north of both properties. when they quit digging on the west side, they dammed it up so it could fill w/ groundwater and precipitation. also explains why they dont have to pump out the active quarry. thoughts??
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Yes and could also be a fractured drain from the east pit to the west so Bruce gets the water from both GW and rain/runoff attributable to both irrespective of surface elevation.
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Is it a limestone quarry or gravel - what was mined? It was my understanding the the mined limestone was crushed to make white rock for our country roads.
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Yes and could also be a fractured drain from the east pit to the west so Bruce gets the water from both GW and rain/runoff attributable to both irrespective of surface elevation. There's a double score.
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I was not going to play but now knowing points go toward prizes and lodging. I say due to clairty/color the major water source is GROUNDWATER via aquifer and not as much surface runoff as others seem to think. Double points.
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i'm not sure there is enough elevation in the region for this thought, its hard to tell on sat.image (w/out contour lines) but it appears there could be some form of terraced drain system between the active pit east of the hwy, to bruces filled pit west of the hwy both connected to the e-w running creek north of both properties. when they quit digging on the west side, they dammed it up so it could fill w/ groundwater and precipitation. also explains why they dont have to pump out the active quarry. thoughts?? Triple points. Geoligist consulted believes that the east side pit, because of the "recontouring" is trapping groundwater and sending it west to the quarry pit.
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Question #2:
What direction does the primary watershed run and why?
Single point available.
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since i cant edit posts, i have to correct for prior fat finger typos......sp: fossiliferous
is the limestone fossiliferous? I haven't run across any fossils, but I haven't really looked very much. Some of the limestone is very solid, while in many other areas it's very soft. How would I look?
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East to West
The other ponds in the area look like the dam is on the west or northwest side.
The draw DD mentioned earlier looks like it could be the spillway instead of the infow.
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i agree w/ you chris but for a different reason. if you look at pic 1 (the far away shot) you can easily discern the dendritic pattern of the drainage. water flows from the outermost branches towards the main trunk......east to west.... who's line is it anyway? this could be the game where the points dont matter, kind of like the first 47 minutes of an NBA game
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"Dendritic" I love it! :-) There's a bonus point for use of the word dendritic. Examples of dendritic patterns...
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So "people spitting in quarry" won't count. I was going to go with "other bodily functions that produce liquids" when I remembered that we're talking Nebraska, not Texas. LOL 1/2 point for being funny.
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I figure I'm so far behind that I won't catch up, besides I will be pretty busy in the next 2 days.
So, I have 2 questions for Bruce: 1) How many other houses are/could be in the future on this BOW?
2) It looks like there was a road or berm separating the East BOW from the West BOW, but that isn't there in the most recent satellite view. How deep did they dig that area when the soil/rocks were removed?
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I figure I'm so far behind that I won't catch up, besides I will be pretty busy in the next 2 days.
So, I have 2 questions for Bruce: 1) How many other houses are/could be in the future on this BOW?
2) It looks like there was a road or berm separating the East BOW from the West BOW, but that isn't there in the most recent satellite view. How deep did they dig that area when the soil/rocks were removed? NEVER give up. Don't EVER give up! There will be questions worth way more points later on. And there will be questions that are only up until the first person answers. So there will be TONS of opportunities to catch up! Answer to you first question: Only two more houses can ever be built on the lake. Mine will be one of them, and the other does not seem to be anywhere in the immediate future. Answer to the second question: The owner of the final lakeside lot dammed the eastern north/south arm so that he could personally excavate it just a couple of years ago. After excavation was complete, he removed his makeshift dam and the East arm was born! I was out on that arm on the ice last Sunday, and the entire arm immediately drops off to 7 feet of water, but doesn't seem to exceed 9 feet anywhere. In my book it's perfect, because it will be very resistant to rooted vegetation growth due to steep sides, but shallow enough to never entirely stratify. It should all be productive water.
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Acceptable answers for first question were "surface water" and "groundwater". Points so far. By the way, don't bother complaining about the points. I can't add anyway. DIED--7 ewest--4 Grimes--4 Dwight--2.1 BM--2 CJBS--2 DD1--1 Todd3138--2 Omaha--2 Youngblood--1 JHAP--3/4 Yolkie--1/2 There will be prizes for 1st, 2nd and randomly picked participant. If you are randomly chosen I will donate $25 to Jesse West Foundation in your name.
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Question #2:
What direction does the primary watershed run and why?
Single point available. West to East. Pond location is East of the Contenental Divide, and West of the Mississippi River. Now, if you want the secondary watershed direction, that's a horse of a different color.......
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Oh I got this one in the bag, anyone can see this is a typical oxbow lake. It was formed by the river that miraclous disappeared so it now has no watershed at all, nice try Bruce.
ok I will go north to south just to be different as long as I do not have to show my math.
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After further reflection, I need to clarify my answer. The primary watershed is the Mississippi Watershed, which runs West to East until it actually enters the Mississippi River, then it runs from North to South.
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Wouldn't that make the "pictured watershed" actually the tertiary or quaternary watershed?
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