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..dittos....but i'm not sure why i enjoy this, probably becuase i'm a sorry ass tard. Don't sell yourself short! You're actually a really first-rate tard.
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I'll throw one out there...
At one point the pond had good forage, allowing a few bass to the reach the 20" range. Then the forage dropped and most of the bigger bass died off. Those few left have much more to eat which makes their WR higher. The in between bass still don't have much to eat. The little guys are in a whole different class or forage which is plentiful and they do well.
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I'll throw one out there...
At one point the pond had good forage, allowing a few bass to the reach the 20" range. Then the forage dropped and most of the bigger bass died off. Those few left have much more to eat which makes their WR higher. The in between bass still don't have much to eat. The little guys are in a whole different class or forage which is plentiful and they do well. Exactly what I would suspect - just seems to show the life cycle of the lake to this point. Bountiful, to not quite so much so, and then a 3rd generation of LMB that are able to thrive pretty nicely on the forage in their right size range. Sucks to be the middle child (class of LMB) in this case!
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..dittos....but i'm not sure why i enjoy this, probably becuase i'm a sorry ass tard. Don't sell yourself short! You're actually a really first-rate tard. "Hey, that hat looks good on you, though!" (Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Beuller?)
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Lots of good answers. You're ticklin' it.
I'll give more information.
The population density is high for all size classes of LMB.
The population density is low to moderate for all size classes of BG.
Any speculation about what the big LMB might be eating?
I did some stomach lavage on LMB. The smaller ones were full of zooplankton. The medium ones were full of air.....
Bueller?
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I am betting the big ones are eating other largemouths... Along with the few HBG offspring and the mid sized classes of those mystical massive crappie you've been hearing about.
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I think you might be missing a year class or 2 of forage. Like was posted earlier, small LMB have the correct size and quantity of food. 10"-15" LMB are missing out on the correct (size and quantity) of food. They are getting by, but either the food is too large for them to swallow, or too small and they have to expend a lot of energy chasing it down. The next year class of LMB (20") are large enough to eat larger prey, which is more plentiful.
That pond is still relatively young; I'm betting you don't find LMB older than about 6 years old?
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That pond is still relatively young; I'm betting you don't find LMB older than about 6 years old?
Yes, that's true.
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Lots of good answers. You're ticklin' it.
I'll give more information.
The population density is high for all size classes of LMB.
The population density is low to moderate for all size classes of BG.
Any speculation about what the big LMB might be eating?
I did some stomach lavage on LMB. The smaller ones were full of zooplankton. The medium ones were full of air.....
Bueller? I made an error on the last post.
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The population density is high for all size classes of LMB.
The population density is low to moderate for all size classes of LMB.
Bruce, how can it be both? Are you saying that the pop. density is high for the 10"-15" size class of LMB and low for the other two size classes? If that's the case, then either the middle class of fish pulled off a huge spawn with very high recruitment, and the other classes didn't, or just the reverse happened with the forage base.
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Dang it, I didn't type fast enough.
O.K. then I'm sticking with my forage answer.
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Small LMB do well because of the vast amount of good growth from the inverts , snails , craws , shrimp etc due to excellent limestone water ( crust. love lime rich water (Ca for the shells and plankton + to eat). Not enough forage between the sizes of 3-5 inches due to samll LMB eating it up. Big LMB eat samll to mid LMB plus craws + other forage.
Optimun water temps around springs provide longer growing season for the big LMB who stake out the prime spots.
Lime rich water produces good fertility for bugs and invert for small fish.
Oversized year class spawn 3+- years ago with not enough morts (natural or harvest).
Possible poor spawn 1+- year ago due to weather or water event reducing forage for now 10-15 inchers.
Small number of bed locations (not much shallow water) with reduced spawning due to lack room so abnormal spawing possibility is high.
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Small LMB do well because of the vast amount of good growth from the inverts , snails , craws , shrimp etc due to excellent limestone water ( crust. love lime rich water (Ca for the shells and plankton + to eat). Not enough forage between the sizes of 3-5 inches due to samll LMB eating it up. Big LMB eat samll to mid LMB plus craws + other forage.
Optimun water temps around springs provide longer growing season for the big LMB who stake out the prime spots.
Lime rich water produces good fertility for bugs and invert for small fish.
Oversized year class spawn 3+- years ago with not enough morts (natural or harvest).
Possible poor spawn 1+- year ago due to weather or water event reducing forage for now 10-15 inchers.
Small number of bed locations (not much shallow water) with reduced spawning due to lack room so abnormal spawing possibility is high. Best answer!
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Rumored to be in the lake: Big Black crappie Jeez what a lousy rumor. We can do better that that. I mean come on, picture two guys fishing and one guy leans into the other and says.. "Psssst, I heard a good rumor." The other guys says "Really, whad ya hear?" First guys says "There's black crappie in these here waters." Come on where's the drama, where's the suspense, where's the fear factor. That's got to be one of the most lousy rumors I've ever heard. That won't keep children awake at night. This is a much better rumor... 1st Fisherman: "Dude, I was fishing here last evening and I see Ted across the way over there trying out a new rod and reel combo." 2nd Fisherman: "Oh, how was he doing?" 1st Fisherman: "The usual he'd caught a couple and got a couple of bites but you wouldn't believe what happened next!" 2nd Fisherman: "So what happened." 1st Fisherman: "Well it looked like he got a huge strike when all of the sudden out of the Quarry comes this green slimy critter. I'm telling ya that thing had to have been 6 foot tall. It grabs Ted and drags him kicking and screaming into the quarry pond. There was blood every where it was horrible. The thing had huge claws, I'm telling ya it tore Ted to shreds. 2nd Fisherman: "Good lord so you saw it yourself?" 1st Fisherman: "Heck yea I saw it, I even snapped this photo of it on my cell phone, lookie here." 2nd Fisherman: "Jeez did ya call the cops after seeing the Quarry Creature?" 1st Fisherman: "Of course not, whatareya nuts? I don't want everyone knowing about our secret fishing hole." 2nd Fisherman: "Oh right, I almost forgot, Quarry Fishing Rule 7, subsection 3. NEVER, EVER tell anyone about the secret quarry fishing spot." 2nd Fisherman: "So what lure was he using?" 1st Fisherman: "Looked like an 1/8 ounce Roostertail." 2nd Fisherman: "Oh, great lure." 1st Fisherman: "Yup, great lure." Funniest answer: 13/16ths point
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i better start sabotaging my answers, i dont want a sorry ass but i'll answer this question as follows: when they (the lmb) are young, they have food when they are older, they dont have enough food. a couple (very small %) of the young ones figure out how to keep eating as they get older, and they turn into nice fish. hows that? 3 points!!!
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There are very limited habitat areas for LMB, and the larger LMB are hogging the good areas. point....word
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esshup, CJBS and Todd nice answers!
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I've got one word fer ya.
CANNIBALS!
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Question #7: I read a report that said that in 2006 the Quarry Lake was inundated with sago pondweed. It was found in all parts of the lake, in very high density. The association members explored possibilities for eradication. The next three years however, there was virtually no sago pondweed to be found. Speculate on why 2006 might have been such a bad year for this submergent vegetation. The map at the beginning of the thread was not taken in 2006 Clue above?
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No Texans visiting since '06?
Last edited by Yolk Sac; 02/14/10 08:46 PM. Reason: Doubt this will put me into whole numbers, but trying to be consistent.
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2006 was the year that the North East arm was pumped dry for excavation.
1) The increased level in the remaining pond caused an influx of nutrients due to added organic material in the water. 2) Pumping the arm dry also added to the nutrient load.
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On second thought, it might have been late 2005 that the arm was pumped dry?
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2006 was the year that the North East arm was pumped dry for excavation.
1) The increased level in the remaining pond caused an influx of nutrients due to added organic material in the water. 2) Pumping the arm dry also added to the nutrient load. This is my favorite part of the game. You guys keep thinking of things the biologist, hydrologists and engineers didn't think of. Hold that thought. You're going to get a bonus point for creativity, but try a different approach.
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No Texans visiting since '06? 17/16ths of a point. Very funny.
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