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I dislike catfish. 
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You could also use podn for put and take trout oct- July. They will grow from 8 inches to 14 inches in that timeframe I think unless you are covered in ice more than I think.
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Greg:
Here, ice normally forms in Dec., and leaves in Mar. It'll be interesting to see what the trout do in my pond this year, they're eating AM 600 once a day. ADF75 feeder. Fan set on high; if I feed for 4 sec duration, there is feed left on the water, 3 sec duration it's all gone. I've got the feeder hooked up to a lawn tractor battery, and that hooked up to a large solar panel, the type that you would see on a roadside construction sign board. No battery problems providing I remember to remove any snow that falls from the solar panel.
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I dislike catfish. You've tried them and didn't like them or just catfish in general don't do anything for you? I've noticed if prepared correctly and out of certain waters catfish can be delicious. Many times they have to be purged to taste right. However I wouldn't have them in any of my ponds as they take up biomass I want used for my other fish.
If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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You could also use podn for put and take trout oct- July. They will grow from 8 inches to 14 inches in that timeframe I think unless you are covered in ice more than I think. Won't last until July here. Most likely late May unless it's a cool spring and then early June. My first year with trout was a warmwater pond. What weren't caught died by late May.
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If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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esshup are you to cold for RES to do well?
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Eric,
I'm at the same latitude as Scott (Esshup). I find they do well in the local lakes but for some reason they can be hit and miss in ponds. Some ponds they do O.K. and others they just disappear.
It may be forage based (snails or lack there of), or predator based, but since we are near the northern most part of their range (Southern Michigan), and they seem to go inactive under the ice and prefer warmer climes, I'm thinking it may be they can't handle the quicker temperature drops of ponds vs. the larger lakes.
I've seen my 3/4 acre pond drop 10 degrees in one day, and with high winds with temps in the 70's it went from lightly ice covered to 50 F. from top to bottom! This can be stressful on any fish but perhaps even more stressful on a fish found more prevalently farther south?
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I put about 50 in my pond a couple of years ago and catch one occasionally. No snails to my knowledge 'cept the ones that were transferred from Cecil's pond in October. They seem to be keeping the same growing pace that the BG that were put in at the same time and size. I've seen them picking pellets off of the surface, and eating them off the bottom (<2' depth, I can't see deeper than that). They were NOT pellet trained RES, they were transferred from a local BOW.
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No question lethal lower temps can occur both from a slow fall or a quick one. Some studies show the quick drops are a big factor alone even in the max lower temp is not reached. Much more stress with a fast fall as they can't acclimate fast enough. This results in a cellular chemical imbalance , muscle rigor and death.
Deep water refuge helps as the fish can move to deep water where the temps don't change as fast. That is why big water will support them where a pond may not.
I think local fish stock probably helped esshup with his results as over time the genetics have adapted to the area somewhat.
Will be interesting to see if the extra cold winter effects them this year.
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The BOW that I resuced those RES from has an a lot of water that is <10' deep, with the max. depth of 31'. It is fed from 3 different streams, and it has at least one spring feeding it. I'm assuming that the spring feeding it is also the deepest part of the lake - that depth has never changed over the past 70 years of topographic maps, where the rest of the lake has filled in, some areas are 10' shallower than they were. The state had J.F. New install settlement ponds on the largest stream that flows into the lake, which has helped, but there is still a lot of sediment that flows into the lake. My pond is 1 to 1 3/4 ac, with the deepest water 18'.
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Cecil strange trout die there in May. They make it in most every lake in middle-north GA into June and into July in many. They go down and hang at thermocline and hard to catch for last month of ther lives. I had some make it yr round in my ponds and know temps were at least 78. Might have something to do with the NC trout being used to waremer temps but they do not die at 70 as you read about. If temp slowly rises they will keep feeding up to 72 degrees. I just thought they would make it even longer up north go figure. But is still valid you have several months of trout with some of those months of them being under ice. Very agressive so easy to harvest and incredible growth rates. Personal choice on whether great to eat or not.
Scott report water temps,trout stop feeding time and temp and mortality if you dont mind.
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Greg, with your current temps, trout ought to survive up into August.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
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At this current gloabl warmign rate they will make it yr round all the way down to Macon.
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Cecil strange trout die there in May. They make it in most every lake in middle-north GA into June and into July in many. They go down and hang at thermocline and hard to catch for last month of ther lives. I had some make it yr round in my ponds and know temps were at least 78. Might have something to do with the NC trout being used to waremer temps but they do not die at 70 as you read about. If temp slowly rises they will keep feeding up to 72 degrees. I just thought they would make it even longer up north go figure. But is still valid you have several months of trout with some of those months of them being under ice. Very agressive so easy to harvest and incredible growth rates. Personal choice on whether great to eat or not.
Scott report water temps,trout stop feeding time and temp and mortality if you dont mind. Greg come to think of it I was running a diffuser at the time so yes they would have lasted a little longer if the water had stratified.
If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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Scott report water temps,trout stop feeding time and temp and mortality if you dont mind.
I can do that. Presently, the pond is still frozen, the trout are still feeding and only one mort today (dinner)  .
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At this current gloabl warmign rate they will make it yr round all the way down to Macon. Get ready for above much above average temps soon. You'll soon forget about the much below average temps. El Nino is supposed to kick in.
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They're calling for highs in the 50's by this weekend... Sure beats highs in the 20's from last week!
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