I may not be able to harvest the WE but if you tell my old man they are in there, he will give up a lot of free time jigging for them. I am sure the abundance of food in most ponds makes them harder to catch. Also, the fact is they are a fairly shy bottom lurking sort of fish to begin with and getting close to them in shallower pond water settings could be a challenge making them difficult targets. Have you tried much night fishing for them Bill?? We targeted them at night in Quebec during periods of extreme heat, days approached 90 F but nights were very productive using glow inthe dark jigs. We "charged" the jigs with a camera flash or flashlight, seemed to work better than just a plain white jig, mosquitoes on a June night in Quebec however, well that's another post.