Scott, I do all of those things. I use windshield washer antifreeze. It gets me down to zero.

I've done it long enough now to get the whole process down to about 10 minutes.


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP Grandpa