Al if you don't stock the golden shiners again do you think that the predators will eventually catch up to the prey in numbers and the fishining will once again improve? Isn't this all just a balancing act of having enough prey to keep the predators fed but not so much that they are never hungry? Nate what about your very heavy prey pond? Can you catch the bass out of it or is electroshocking the only way you even see these really fat bass?