Pond Boss Forums INTRO Questions & Observations Clean Water Restoration Act Bill # S. 787

It isn�t about dividing up some pot of taxpayer money to make a select group feel happier, though that does have a familiar ring to it. It is about what is right and what is wrong.

The incompetence, ineptitude, and corruption in Washington smell about as bad as the United Nations, another corrupt fiasco ridden body that we mostly pay for.

Just saying I'd be happy with the cash instead of it being totally wasted. Didn't mean to get anyones ire up.

The people that might actually read a letter from a constituant would rareey consider voting for a bill like this. The ones that would vote for it could not care less what the people want/say. The vote this week along with comments like, "well-dressed, astro-turf protestors" pretty much proved, at least to me, a complete lack of desire to help, but rather to control people is abundantly clear.

Food and water are a basic human right, when the government can tax and control water from your own property, next they will tax and control the food from your garden.
Many people will sit by and give up their rights as long as the govmt. takes care of them, others will do something about it.

We put time and money into our ponds cause of the many reasons stated on this forum, but this freedom can also be lost. If you feel my position is overstated, stand by and watch.

I wonder how long before this post gets zapped.

The rumor that we would have to list our guns on are income tax forms, possibly pay a fee of $50.00 per gun and get fingerprinted was false. The tax was to be on manufacturers. One more of those phony emails that go around.

In Illinois, they recently passed House Bill 0170.
http://ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.a...87&SessionID=76

The sponsor, owns several companies that will directly benefit from the legislation.
http://ilga.gov/house/Rep.asp?MemberID=1501

Here is an idea of what it means to homeowners...
http://www.owpi.net/documents/OWPI_Governor_Contact_Letter___Version_21.pdf

In downstate Illinois, surface discharging systems are necessary due to soil content (great for building ponds; but not much percolation).

The bill will delay the construction process and add greatly to the cost.

Many of the legislators pushing it were from northern Illinois. Most of the systems affected were central and southern Illinois. Many Chicago area legislators jumped on board; but Chicago reportedly routinely gets special permits to discharge raw sewage into the river.

Sound fair?

The Clean Water Restoration Act is just more of the same on the federal level.

AP, as long as it stays focused and reasonable, I don't think it will be moderated. This is a VERY serious political concern that really can't go unnoticed.

I'm confident all aspects of any posts made will be well thought out on this subject and I believe we will respect opinions and thoughts on it. There should be no reason for anyone to feel offended by anothers opinions/ideas.

Regardless of anyones political persuasions, if this passes it will seriously impact every single pond owner dramatically, not to mention anyone that ever wants to drink water.

Actually there was a bill to do just that. It didn't go anywhere & it was several years ago. The relative e-mail circulating now is however false. Nothing on that order is before congress now.

But the tax was for manufacturers not the gun owners. Not saying that is better though.

FWIW, manufactures/ businesses don't pay taxes----they collect them or add them into the cost of everything sold. The reality is, Consumers like you and me pay all those "hidden" taxes.