In late August ,and September I fished from a pier that was in the water. I caught almost all the fish about 30 feet from this pier on about a 45 degree direction towards deeper water. But now that pier has been ulled out of the water for the winter. The pier is 50' long so I'm hoping I can get about 75' casts to hit the same area. But I have no clue how much deeper the waterr really is. When out in a canoe in Sept. The whole area did notook particularry deep and It was very weedy.