Bill Cody, thanks again for your reply on the tilipia.I did some checking around like you said and found a place here in town called Inland Aqantics that specialize in all types of fish for aquariums,(very big outfit). Called and talked to Mike at Inland and he said they had tilipa at one time but don't carry them any more. But he did say that if I would like to get some to come in and talk to him and he would order me some this spring when ever I need them, so I think I'll experiment with them here in central Indiana this spring. THANKS PO