Russ--- No offense taken, but if I do my job right and the kids take my advice, then the most they will see me is twice a year for a cleaning and a new toothbrush. And they will never contribute very much to my car or pond. And as for your dentist's taste in car's , he should have built a pond , it won't take up space in the garage and you get all excited when it rains.

Norm-- as per your suggestion about standardized names....I don't think that would ever happen given the diversity of pond owners from here to there.... That's why I made a plug earlier in this thread for a spot on the forum that would be a permanent site to list the official name and description of a fish,including a nice picture,( and pictures of the fish at differnt life stages would be the icing on the cake-because it was that lack of knowledge that started this thread) and a list of it's common names. And that such list would and could be amended as each pond member would visit the site to learn what the other pond guy is talking about..... It could be down in the "Help" section... Heading " Fish Names and Descriptions". Also a list of Zones probably based on temperature extremes that these fish seem to prefer... It would be much like the seed catalog zones that tell you when to plant your seeds and if the seed would even grow in your Zone...

I don't think an article in Pond Boss would be the best, because it could not be added to as pond miesters test and fail or succed at growing a new breed of fish in their special Zone.

But like all pondmiesters---- " First you got to have a dream, then go dig a hole,and the size of the hole only depends on your dream."