Thanks Dave, will wait on the carp. LMB is in the plans for next on the lower pond. it has been drained. A summer project awaits me to reclaim this 2.5 acre pond. I got a lot of help on digging my first 1 acre pond. Took all summer. Buying bigger equipment for the lower pond. I need to post pics on my first pond which is the on being stocked. Thanks again, Craig