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actually i'd only lip grip the inside cat. it'd be pretty tough to lip grip old joe. he's earned his keep many times over. i have many tales of joe suitable for "theatre of the absurd".

the most recent (late last fall) was when he full on attacked a large turkey vulture in our front yard. it was unbelievable.

one of the earliest tales (about 10 years ago) was when he attacked a full grown doe from behind, and she chased him across our entire 12 acres and he never got caught.

he's been picked up by a great horned owl who only made it about 10 feet in the air before joe almost gutted him.

he fell out of a two story window, got caught in the screen on the way down, and busted his nose which is still crooked today.

a coyote chased him up a oak tree once. he was up about 30 feet, my wife sat there and watched him bobbing up and down on the end of a branch and he timed the "bob" so at the lowest point he dropped into lower branches about 10 feet down, and he did this again, and dropped the last 10 feet to ground.

in front of my neighbors house, my neighbor watched him fight and scare off a full grown fox last summer.

he's lost all his canines in fights, has a ripped ear, a crooked nose, and only God knows how many other tall tales we didnt see, and he's made it to 14 years old....i'll admit, i'll miss him when he's gone.

the vet wont miss him. he had to go in for an overnight thing once. he escaped the cage and they had to dart him with a rifle, he doesnt like vets. just for posterity:



GSF are people too!