Sounds like the one contractor would just rather NOT deal with a pond loop. For that, he gets a thumbs down. The first vendor was happy to do pond loops or trenching...made no difference to him, as he contracted it either way.

Wonder how the contracting out affects any performance warranty?

Either way, I'm getting closer...daughter's wedding is 5/9...wife says this (AND my new shop) have to wait til after that, but I did send out for bids on the shop to a contractor this AM...

In a lifetime, the average driver will honk 15,250 times. My wife figures I'm due to die any day now...