Thanks for the great info! I was thinking that maybe the GSH may raid some BG nests or work on the fry for me . Have you ever heard of destroying some of the BG beds on the fringe of a colony,leaving the dominate males near the center to do their thing? If thats a stupid idea, just tell me, as I do not take anything personally. I'll probably try the SMB in the fall.We're going to aerate and feed to help the BG.I may look for a local Wiper source too,but I'm afraid they'll be pretty hard on the other forage as well.I'll see if I can figure out how to post some pics.Any thoughts are appreciated.Thanks again.