Bob what are they doing about the bad timers they sold. Will they replace them. For some reason 2 of mine with those timers run down the battery way to fast and jam. This happens even with minimum feed settings ( 2 times a day at 1 second). I also have doubts about the solar charger on those units being powerful enough. The new feeders ( I have 4 newer ones and 1 old one)are not near as good as the old one. They have a lot to do to keep me as a customer. First is the headache I have keeping the new ones working. I have to wire 2 batteries (12/70 or 12/80) in parallel to keep them running for a week set on 2x 1 second feedings. One that is less than a year old is in the shed because the timer and 2 motors won't work together correctly (jam I guess). Its replacement works just a little better than it. They have sent so called replacement timers and solar panels and they do the same as the replaced ones. For the time I have wasted on working on them , sending them back and re-setting the replacement up , then unjaming them I could have paid for other feeders. This does not even account for the fact that my new feed trained fish had to sit there for a week unfed (until I found that it was not working ) and moved in another feeder . Very dissatisfied with the new ones but love the old reliable one. For me to get on here and complain about a product , is out of character , but you did ask.