Bobad I have an old bar and chain for building demolition and to cut roots with, and usually I cut roots with my Caterpillar D6 anyway. As I mentioned, I wasn't here to upset anyones applecart, but the MSRP of a Stihl MS310 saw when I bought mine 4 years ago was $349, I paid $329 after dealing a bit. I have a friend who bought the same model 2 years later up near Jamestown, NY for $350 out the door. I admit I haven't been to buy a saw in 4 years but I would bet I could still purchase this same saw for under $400 cash today. If your dealers are asking way more they are gouging. We can agree to disagree, but my Stihl will still be here running in 30 years, I count on it, and I have one here 26 years old that makes me believe that. You obviously are satisfied with your saws, and I am happy for you.