people tend to say no when you just go knocking on their front door, i've found that out lots of times. I use to live about 10 miles from Hudson, not familiar with Limekiln. You dont have a place on Indian Lake just south of Hudson, do you? Now that lake has something special in it, don't know what, but it produces size and quality of bass like i've never seen around these parts. A guy that use to live on it had a bass on his wall that he hit with the boat motor prop that was like 8 or 8.5lb.