Hey Greg want to hear about your trip. My GG are now 4 years old. But remember I have not followed Kens plan at all(sorry Deb). I stocked Coopernose and Redears the second year mainly because this board was scaring me to death. Also I fertilize with excellent results and feed with lower protein/%fishmeal Ken recommends. The GG I catch which I consider the origional stocking are all over a pound with some 1.5 lbs. I am having good reproduction but I don't know if they are GG F-2s, Coppernoses or GG/coopernoses Hybrids. I am careful to look for any signs of Greensunfish and have not seen any. IDing sunfish is something I am not as good at as Bruce ect so I mostly look for the large mouth as a GG