ETD our pics look great. I live in NW PA about 25 miles south of Erie, just wondered how far west you lived in NY? I am digging a pond here on a much muddier site than yours, it's been a real SOB to dig but I am gaining. I will not have any trouble keeping water if the amount that comes out of the ground is any indication. I went to college at RIT just wondered more about where you were and would love to come see that pond when you have it finished, even before it is full I'd love to take a look at it. Sorry to hijack your post yet again, heh heh, just liked the looks of your project is all, good job!