Most people here dislike these guys , i like em, you can actually catch them on lures. I`ve caught them on road runner`s and jigs while crappie fishing during the spring. and also the flesh stays relatively tender up to 40 pounds where as blue1s and channels the flesh gets well rather tough as the get in the larger sizes. I think the flesh on these cats are the best , they have a little more sweeter tatse than blues or channels. my personal opinion of course, they taste best to me!