Thanks to all who responded. Nate, guess I really want the fast fishin for SMB and HSB for me.I have access to a 4acre swamp/pond that is full of fish but hard to fish. Prehaps it would be better for the grandkids to learn the hard way. Theo, your answer bums me even tho you are right. It'd be hard and expensive to short cut it but it's just real hard to be patient when you're talkin yrs. I'll probably do it the right way with forage stocked and left to grow, reproduce and YP and SMB fingerlings when appropriate and available. Maybe even next yr for the HSB at a bigger size. Dan and Brian, rentin an auger and/or buyin a dirt bit is too expensive. Guess I'll do it Cecils yankee ice installation way. With all the rain and snow melt we're havin, once it re-freezes, I'll be set to go. Ted,I've tried to research this aspect but haven't been too successfull cause I just don't understand the #'s and pressures. I think I should use 1/2' id hose and place my stone at about 8'. The pump is gonna be about 15' from the pond with 1/2"pvc running to edge of the water where it will connect to the weighted hose. Do I need to put a pressure guage in the pvc right beside the pump? Bob-O

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