Ha! No, you didn't want to be in his shoes...he was so screwed! \:\) I found out with the elbow and pipe diameter 6", he'd brought it up 16"! Guess I got my point across as I got home today and he had taken the elbow off. I have assured him he can bring it up some but not at the cost of the peninsula--to get someone to shoot the height before putting the elbow back. Guess you gather, I want my peninsula! I win this one! Honestly, Dave, he needs to give the pond a chance to grow some natural brush/cattails etc around it...it's only a year, 3 month old pond. Gosh, we'd only got the grass to really grow around the edges this past September. Now that aside, and we're having such a mild winter thus far, is there anything I need to be doing fish-wise?? I quit feeding back when y'all told me to. Everything seems calm.