true, far off topic. I was thinking while in the shower as I often do, and someone said something about management principles and that is exactly how we have to think about this. We have to think in terms of habbitat, forage, structure, ect. We are like overpopulated bass. In america we are nice and healthy but close to overpopulation and are being hurt by the over populated people buying our food and evasive species illegally being stocked. Certain "fish" have way too many babies so we need some hybrids that can't reproduce. Either that or we need to start keeping some fish, ie, population controll. What are the big predators? Disease, famon, war, natural catastrophies. Makes you think.