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#63823 01/24/06 10:19 AM
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Is this a good time to sow grass seed on the area between the normal bank and the now lower level mark? Is so, what type of grass would work?
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Most I have read and what I sowed was annual rye.
It grows well in cool weather and shiners will spawn in it. It also provides habitat for aquatic invertebrates when covered up.


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BM,

Does the rye grass survive when (in the unlikely event we get lots of rain) it is covered by water? If so, that might be a really good thing to try until hot weather arrives.

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ML :

It does not survive underwater but will stay green for a time then brown and then decay. We do plant rye on exposed banks when we draw the lakes down. It growes to about 8-10 in. high before the water comes up and covers it. We need a fast growing grass like rye to fit it in the time period.

In addition to being used by aquatic species it is full of non-aquatics and when the water comes up the small fish have a field day.

Here is part of a post by Dave W. on the point :

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".... Newly flooded vegetation produces a tremendous food supply for the aquatic system. More nutrients, more zooplankton, more aquatic insects, better prey fish production, good habitat for age-0 fishes such as largemouth bass, etc.! In fact, ponds that have clay suspension typically clear after the vegetation is flooded and starts to decay. So, many positives. "
















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If you are worried about flooded vegitation surviving, plant japanese millet. It handles flooding well, germinates quickly and provides food for wildlife....especially waterfowl.


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I think ewest's post by Dave Willis tells it. I had read that millet would last a while, but I am afraid of the seeds attracting too many birds. Doves would be OK. I am thinking that the grass uses up the excessive N2 on the bottom to help in preventing bottom weeds from growing.


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Sounds like it would be good for the grass shrimp too and probably Gambusia. I've still got a couple of months left for rye and will try it in the exposed areas. Thanks for that post from Dr. Dave.

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One other point which fits in with Dave's comment which I found recently while checking on fatheads is their use of newly flooded grass to spawn and hide in.
















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Thanks for all the input I have other needs and will spend some time reading other sections. Better late than never may be the motto for this pond.
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