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Fingerling
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Hello, I'm fairly new to the Pond Boss Forums, and my question is regarding the water I lose over my spillway. I have two lakes side by side, which you can see in the photo I linked to. They're in about the center of the picture. One looks like a big frog, So I call it Big Frog, and Pollywog is the pond to the south of that. Big frog is spring fed and stays full, normally spilling 50 to 100 gallons per minute over the spillway. Pollywog has begun to dry up over the last few years, so I can't even keep fish in it anymore. It used to never dry up, so I may have more of a problem. My place is an hour from where I live, and I can only make it out once every month or two most of the year. I was just wondering if an electric submersible would move the water efficiently enough for it not to be cost-prohibitive to do so, or if someone had another solution. We're probably talking about 300 feet of pipe max, and I'm probably 300 yards from electrical service. Any help would be much appreciated. http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h445/baldilocks23/Aerial.jpg
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How big is Pollywog? Since you are out in west Texas you are going to need about 6-7 GPM per acre to keep up with evaporation and that is running the pump all day.
How high are you going to have to pump the water to get it into Pollywog?
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Cut you dozer a hole/trench/draw between the 2 to make one bigger water hole?
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
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A hydraulic ram pump might work depending on your site conditions. Check out this video to see how it works. They do not require electrical power so you can run it 24/7 This page has some formulas to calculate the kind of flow rates you can expect from a 50-100 gpm supply.
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Fingerling
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The Ram Pump is a really good idea, I just don't think it would put out enough water. Especially if loss is really 6-7 GPM per acre. Pollywog, when full, is about 5 acres, so I'm losing 30 to 35 gpm to evaporation? Ouch. I guess it could slow down the problem, and maybe help me through a drought. That's a good Idea.
Big Frog is between 10 and 12 acres I believe. To pump water I'd have to climb around 20 feet I guess, so it wouldn't be a real easy trip for the water.
Combining the two tanks is something I don't think I could ever do. The man who put these ponds in, Doc Potts, really did his homework before he built these. The place was like a child of his. He could have combined the tanks to begin with, and didn't, so I'm assuming he had a good reason. Big Frog is such a solid pond, staying full year in and year out. It's really deep, vegetation is different, and it produces fish that just look completely different, healthier, than Pollywog's fish looked. They're just so different, it's hard to believe the two tanks are 100 feet apart.
Last edited by Bozilla; 05/06/11 10:56 AM.
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